Wednesday, April 8, 2020

Five Speed Rebuild, Part II

In today's episode, I get almost all the way down to the bare bones of the transmission.  Starting with a clean case...

 

Man, that was disgusting stuff.  ATF plus parts cleaner equals pink slime.

On to the fun part... The Haynes manual recommends that you use adapter plate KV32100300 to mount the gear assembly for easier service.  Since I don't have adapter plate KV32100300, I used the next best thing; a 2x4.


Disassembly is a pretty detailed but simple series of steps.  The manual is pretty good at describing how things look and the order of disassembly, though my transmission appears to have a couple of minor deviations.

First thing: Remove the thrust washer and note which way it goes.  The side with the little dots goes inward.  That lets oil move around and keep the washer from wearing.  It seems to work...


Next step: Pop out the pins that hold the shift forks to their rods with Fork Rod Pin Punch ST23540000.  I seem to have misplaced that tool; I used a punch that I ground down to fit.  There are three, and the pin for the R/5 shift fork is a little shorter.

 

Next, remove the check balls and their springs.  The retainers screw out: two on the top and one on the side.  The one on the side is a longer retaining bolt.  The balls come out when you remove the shift fork rods.


There are two circlips that act as a stop for the 3/4 and 1/2 shift fork rods; they come off.


Once the circlips are out, the fork rods can come out too and the forks just lift away.


Before proceeding, remove the two interlock plungers.  These sit in between the fork rods to keep you from shifting the transmission into an impossible state.

 

With that done, we have just a couple of gear trains.


Now the fun really begins, starting with removing the rear mainshaft bearing.  I bought a bearing puller just for this.  (Well, and I know I'll need it for another project.)  Easy peasy.  But before the bearing comes off, the circlips in front and behind have to be removed.  The front one comes off; the rear one gets shoved back so you can put the puller on the bearing.

 

This is where my transmission deviates from the manual a bit.  The manual states the next step is to unstake the mainshaft nut and remove it.  ("Unstaking" means to remove the dent applied to hold the nut in place.)  However, my transmission has no mainshaft nut, just a collar and thrust washers.  The counter shaft (so named because it rotates counter to the mainshaft) has a staked nut.  So I removed the collar and thrust washers, unstaked the counter shaft nut and removed that.  In this photo, the mainshaft is in the background and the counter shaft idler gear in the foreground.


Then I removed the idler gear, followed by the 5th and reverse gears.  The manual says 'together', but they came off individually and I see no reason they had to be together (for my transmission; maybe that is part of the deviation I noticed).

There is a circlip that retains the synchro, which in the below photo is buried under gunk but is there.  There is also a spacer on the main shaft that goes with the package.  Note that there is a very small ball bearing that retains the needle bearing for the R/5 synchro; don't lose that!

 

I then removed the needle bearing and its inner race.  This was particularly disgustingly caked with the remains of ATF.

 

I'm starting to build up a disassembled gear train...


Now the mainshaft bearing retaining plate can be removed.  This takes a star hex drive, which I happened to have thanks to a random trip to Home Depot.  To get leverage, a vise grip does the trick.


At this point, it's down to removing the circlip for the bearing and gently driving the main shaft out with a soft Big Hammer.  As the shaft frees up from the case, the counter shaft will also come out--you have to catch it or you'll be unhappy.  But the whole mainshaft just pops out of the plate.

 

The last item to remove is the reverse idler gear.  The manual states to pull the gear off, but I found it just as easy to remove the entire assembly on the shaft, which is held in place by a circlip and friction.

The result of all this work is impressive.


I figured I'd take a look at the R/1 synchro to see how worn it was.  I am quite surprised to find very little wear on the teeth that contact the baulk ring (the gear contacting the baulk ring is what slows things down so the gears mesh).


I said I got almost all the way down to bare bones.  I got everything out, but now the rest of the mainshaft remains.  It doesn't look all that horrible as long as I take enough pictures to remember where everything goes.


But I definitely have more cleaning to do.  Yuck.


Next time, I'll finish disassembly and get everything nice and clean.  Then the excitement of testing whether I remember how it goes back together can start!
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Sunday, March 29, 2020

Five Speed Rebuild, Part I

Finally.  FINALLY.  I've got both a 5-speed transmission and the kits to rebuild and install it.  I wanted to do this before I put Gidget together, but I ran out of time and funds.  So the 4-speed went in, and this sat.  Until now.

The Datsun F5W60A transmission is from the 1979-1982 210.  It has five synchronized forward gears and one non-synchro reverse gear.  (Imagine, a synchronized first gear.  Wow.)  It has nearly identical dimensions as the Midget 4-speed box in length, width, bellhousing shape and size, and clutch diameter.

 

Someone got smart and decided that this could be a swap-in to the Midget--and they were right!  This is *the* box to install, and it is supposed to radically improve the driving experience for the one stirring the gears.  So I got one.  I paid $300 for this from a person in Malaysia, of all places... they advertised the box on the MG Experience and I couldn't say no at that price.  This was about 5 years ago, I think, and it's sat in storage since.

Until now.

I scraped up the cash to buy a conversion kit from Rivergate Restoration Products (http://www.rivergate5speed.com).  It's awesome.  It comes with:

  • High grade aluminum adapter plate with rear main oil seal
  • Clutch disk and replacement release bearing (you use your clutch plate)
  • Driveshaft yoke to fit the Datsun main shaft
  • Transmission mount
  • Billet slave cylinder and hose to improve clutch action (extra)
  • Speedometer driver adapter and cable (extra)
  • All installation hardware
  • Excellent instructions
And I bought a rebuild kit for the transmission as well.  Total price with shipping: $1283.


Did you notice that Datsun 210 Haynes manual?  That's a find from Amazon for under $10.  It has a section for transmission rebuild, and I wasn't going to go without some guidance on this one.

Before I think about installing this baby, I have to rebuild her.  So here we go.

The first step is to deal with the fact that the transmission is from a car with a cable-driven clutch instead of the hydraulic setup I need.  Fortunately, the transmission was made to accept both with a  little work.  I found the correct fork on eBay and paid too much for it, except for the fact that they don't exist any more meant I would pay whatever it took.

I started with this:

 
The hole I had to mill out is here:

 

I drilled it out first, then ground it out with an angle grinder.


  

I test fit the replacement fork and all is well!

  

The rebuild kit comes with a rubber boot which fits the new hole perfectly.

Now that I have the correct configuration, it's time to tear this thing apart.  First, out come the reverse light switch and the speedo drive.

 

Next, I removed the stopper pin and reverse check spring and plunger.

  

(Boy, that fluid that dripped out doesn't look very good.)

After that, I removed the front cover with its O-ring and shim.

  

The next job is to remove the rear extension that hold the shift rod and linkage.  To do this, remove the bolts connecting the rear extension to the transmission, and then pull back on the housing while turning the "striking rod" (the part that connects the shift rod to the linkage) clockwise while lightly tapping on the housing with a soft hammer to loosen the sealant that keeps the oil inside.  I was a little worried about screwing this up, but it was actually pretty simple.  And I got to use my old friend Big Hammer again.

  

Ugh.  What the hell was in here?


ATF.  Automatic Transmission Fluid.  Not the right stuff according to the manual and pretty much everything I've ever read about how to lubricate a manual transmission.  ATF doesn't have the right viscosity, heat protection or lubricating qualities, especially for the bits of brass innards that are the synchro "baulk rings" that do the actual job of synchronizing.

And it's gross.

At least the gears look pretty ok so far.


Now that the back is off, it's time to remove the bellhousing.  That's right--the front and the back of this thing come apart, and the gear assembly is carried on a plate in between the two.

Before this can happen, the front bearing retaining circlip has to come off to allow the bellhousing to slide free (or to slide the gear assembly out of the bellhousing, depending on your point of view).


Now it's a matter of tapping on the bellhousing with my friend Big Hammer while holding the mainshaft to separate the two.  In my case, this was difficult--the bearing was reluctant to part ways with the housing, and I had to do a little tapping on the bearing itself to get it to move.  But once it did, the housing came off as advertised.

 

More of that lovely fluid.  Yummy.

The result is a gear train bereft of its coverings.


They're filthy with ATF, of course.  But the gears look pretty darn good.

  


If it weren't full of crap, I'd be tempted to just replace the bearings and put it back together.  But I can't leave it like this--so it's going to come apart.  But not today.  Join us next time for the thrilling adventures of Rebuild Man as he faces his nemesis, 5 Speed Gear Train Disassembly!
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